Grooving to the beat of Jhoom Barabar Jhoom
17 06 2007Throw Rahat Fateh Ali Khan, Sukhwinder Singh and KK together, singing the words of Gulzar to the rhythm of Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy and the result is outstanding!
By Maheen Sabeeh
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Shooting from the hip about the business of music
17 06 2007Starting off as a sound engineer, Faisal Rafi has come far. The co-producer of hit Rahat Fateh Ali Khan songs, ‘Jiya Dhadak Dhadak Jaaye’ and ‘Mann ki Lagan’, Faisal has worked with some of the most prolific musicians in the country including Junoon, Rohail Hyatt, Shahi Hasan, Gumby, Aamir Zaki… as well as the legendary Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan among various others. Instep speaks with Faisal Rafi about classical music versus pop, piracy, record labels, the India-Pakistan difference and why he decided to produce the debut album of the young musical group that is Kaavish…
By Maheen Sabeeh
Look at the world. Anywhere in the world, America or Europe – they may hate each other but if the music industry is going through a problem, musicians will unite. I’m working on both sides – pop as well as classical. I’m at a unique position and I get to listen to both sides of the story. On the pop side, people do make money. In comparison to the classical musicians, they are better off. They have billboards and record deals and they do get money for their album. Have you seen any Ustad on a billboard? Those guys have far bigger problems than our pop musicians. Main kya boloon? Classical musicians are our treasure.
Instep: You’ve been to India. How does it work there?
FR: India is a successful entertainment industry. It’s second only to Hollywood. And by virtue of their film industry, there is a massive market in India. Even though music is a huge part of our history, we deny it. In India, music is a part of their religion and culture and they embrace it. It’s been like this for hundreds of years and they have produced exceptional singers, artists. Let’s not deny that. That said, there is a lot of respect for music and musicians. People look up to you. In Pakistan, by and large, people look down on you. So, India is a very attractive market.In terms of creativity, our music is definitely better. Because of the lack of a proper flourishing film industry, our music is not bastardised. 90 per cent of all music in India now is related to their film industry. The film industry dictates the kind of music that is being put out in the market. Here you can make anything you want. Everyone including their pop artists wants to make it in films. All our musicians who go to India also go through Bollywood. Who other than Junoon has been able to sell albums without going into films? Junoon was the only one.
I may be biased because I was a great Junoon fan but fact is that they sold in India without being in Bollywood. Even NFAK got major recognition after he teamed up with Javed Akhtar for ‘Afreen Afreen’. And I feel that that venture in India was nothing compared to what he has done before – his qawwalis. Whatever success I’ve had minus the event management activity has been because of films. Manish Makhija, a very old friend of mine is married to Pooja Bhatt. He had some recordings of some work Shahi Hasan and I had done years ago. Pooja heard it and Munna calls me in 2003 and says, ‘Yaar deal hogayi’ and I was like, ‘what deal?’ He asked me and Shahi to come to India. We got a small briefing, came back, did the song and the background score as well. The film (Paap) failed but the song made it. ‘Mann Ki Lagan’ was a huge hit. So, the point is no one other than Junoon has been able to make it to India just on the merit of their music. Rahat has made it in India now. He’s singing in quite a few films. Even after Charkha releases, he will always be associated to those two songs.
Instep: You agree that venturing in Bollywood is the way to sell in India?
FR: Yes. Now, their business side works. It is definitely steps ahead of us.
Instep: Their record label industry is supposedly miles ahead.
FR: Yea, they are. I have worked with a few of them such, as Sony, HMV, which is Sa Re Ga Ma now, and I have no complaints. To this day, I get royalties off music I did years ago. Musically, India is not ahead of us. Many times, it’s not that our music is bad that it doesn’t make it to Bollywood but…
Instep: It is too good?
FR: Yes! Look at us. Tell me if I’m wrong but Pakistan is a flourishing music market. It is an Islamic country that is just coming out of one Martial Law and perhaps going into another. It’s descending into chaos, and yet, music is doing extremely well here. It just goes to show how musical we are as a nation. We are in denial of our own musical heritage. This is the difference between India and us. We deny our musical heritage.
Instep: You are fan of Junoon, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Doors… How did you end up doing classical music?
FR: Whatever interaction I had with Nusrat Fateh Ali – doing sound for his shows – it was a start. Farid Ayaz introduced me to Ustad Naseeruddin Sami and a variety of classical music. My wife, Nini is a classical music enthusiast. She would listen to Pink Floyd but also to Ravi Shankar. She introduced me to a variety of classical music, instrumentals, sitar and tabla etc. She took me to APMC a couple of years ago and that is how it began. Then my interaction with Shahi – he has been into interesting music that general people aren’t – also was an influence. So that is the music I’m inclined to do. The commercial thing keeps happening on the side but classical music is my main focus.
Instep: When you say commercial work, you mean jingles?
FR: No man. Are you mad! (laughs) No no jingles.
Instep: Where does the finance come from to run this studio then?
FR: Shahi does sessions here. So that type of work keeps on going on here. That work comes my way, especially from Shahi so that this studio keeps running.
Instep: Other than Kaavish’s upcoming album and Charkha, which you co-produced, what projects are you working on?
FR: There is Drums of the Indus. It’s not drums alone. Its various elements taken from all the music that’s played along the Indus. It’s gathering music. Because drums are played were people gather. I’m the producer but various people are playing on it and helping out. Abbas Premjee, Gumby, Shahi Hasan among various others are involved. This album will have vocals as well. Some will be from the classical side and some from the pop/rock industry. There will be some instrumentals but it will be in song format. And not because its requirement but because the idea is to get it across a wide audience which includes the youth, there will be a house-dance version of this album along with the CD. It will take another six months to a year before it releases but a lot of work has been done.Then there is a compilation album with Shahi Hasan. It is being done with a company in America. It will be an archival project that will eventually come out in the market. We’ve been recorded since December with every Ustad from Fateh Ali Khan to Mubarak Ali Khan. It needs to be done because we may not hear many of these classical greats again. A year of research has gone into this project. I went to India and got hundreds of recordings from India. It will be good. I’m research fanatic but on the technical side, he put a lot of effort into this. This project is very important. It was in the ’70s that EMI did a compilation album of this sort. And after that, now it will be done.
Instep: At the APMC you were ticked off by the announcement that no recording of more than 5 minutes was allowed of Shubha Mudgal.
FR: Shubha’s a great artist, I meant no disrespect to her but she was junior compared to the others who performed that night. Un ke rights nahin hain? Shubha Mudgal ko record na karo kyunki woh India sey aayi hai but what about the rest of them?
There can’t be rights on culture. How can you copyrights kalams or raags that have been around for centuries? You can’t.
Instep: You recorded her?
FR: Yes. It’s been sent to APMC.
Instep: Is Shubha Mudgal on it?
FR: Yes, she’s on it whether she likes it or not! If she’s not on it, we’ll put it on the net. (Laughs).
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7 reasons why the musicians should watch Music and Lyrics
3 06 2007Music and Lyrics is a film that takes an inside look on music, how has-been musicians survive and what it takes to sell in this era of competitiveness. It is a film that deserves a watch from all, especially anyone from the local music industry
By Maheen Sabeeh
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